Heart and Hustle in Hamilton County

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Cincinnati Animal Care handles nearly 9,000 animals a year, runs two facilities, and operates as Hamilton County's official animal services provider. In this episode of Heart and Hustle in Hamilton County, host Jeff Aluotto, County Administrator, sits down with CEO Carolyn Evans and COO/Interim Dog Warden Meaghan Colville to break down how the organization works, why the county partnership came together in 2020, and what it really takes to run one of the region's busiest animal welfare operations.

To learn more about Hamilton County, Ohio, our services and job openings, visit hamiltoncountyohio.gov.

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Jeff Alutto: All right. Welcome to Heart and Hustle
and Hamilton County.

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Jeff Alutto: This is a podcast entirely dedicated to
the people, policies

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Jeff Alutto: and programs that form Hamilton County
government. Why the name

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Jeff Alutto: Heart and Hustle? Because it best
describes the public servants

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Jeff Alutto: that every single day work behind the
scenes to make

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Jeff Alutto: Hamilton County one of the best run
county governments in

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Jeff Alutto: America.

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Jeff Alutto: So thank you for joining us today. This
is a

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Jeff Alutto: bit of a government 101 primer for
people who are

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Jeff Alutto: kind of policy government wonks, who
want to just understand

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Jeff Alutto: a little bit more about what makes their
government tick.

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Jeff Alutto: And we've got a really cool program for
you today.

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Jeff Alutto: First of all, I'm Jeff Aluotto, county
administrator, with me,

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Jeff Alutto: as always, behind the control board here
as Bridget Doherty,

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Jeff Alutto: our communications director for Hamilton
County.

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Jeff Alutto: And like I said, we've got a really cool
program

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Jeff Alutto: today. We are out at Cincinnati Animal
Care out here

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Jeff Alutto: in Northside. Believe that we're
officially on North Side. Right.

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Jeff Alutto: And we have CEO Carolyn Evans with us
today and

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Jeff Alutto: COO and acting dog warden Meaghan
Colville with us today.

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Jeff Alutto: Did I get both the titles right?
Correct. All right.

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Jeff Alutto: Cool. Okay. So Carolyn, let's start with
you in terms

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Jeff Alutto: of just how did you get started in this
business

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Jeff Alutto: and what brought you ultimately to
Cincinnati Animal Care?

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Carolyn Evans: Me personally, this is definitely a
second career for me.

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Carolyn Evans: Running a major municipal animal
services operation was not on

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Carolyn Evans: my bucket list, but I made a career
change. I

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Carolyn Evans: made my way to Cincinnati after graduate
school.

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Carolyn Evans: I got my MBA at Ohio State and worked in

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Carolyn Evans: Cincinnati for about a decade as a
management consultant. And

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Carolyn Evans: then I wanted to take a little bit of a

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Carolyn Evans: step back, slow down my life a little
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Carolyn Evans: start my family, spend time with my with
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Carolyn Evans: And the career change happened. But the
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Carolyn Evans: happen so much.

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Carolyn Evans: I initially had a part time pet
photography business called

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Carolyn Evans: PhoDOGrapher which I did for about a
dozen years. And

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Carolyn Evans: then I started really focusing on some
passion projects of

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Carolyn Evans: mine, which all were related to animal
welfare. So in

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Carolyn Evans: the past 20 years, I initially was the
board chair

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Carolyn Evans: of the United Coalition for Animals and
opened the region's

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Carolyn Evans: first high volume clinic for dogs and
cats here.

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Carolyn Evans: And then 15 years ago, I launched My
Furry Valentine,

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Carolyn Evans: which is the region's largest mega
adoption event. And then

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Carolyn Evans: in in the last decade, I helped form
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Carolyn Evans: Care and Clermont Animal Care to run
operations for animal

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Carolyn Evans: services for those two counties,
respectively. So that's how I

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Carolyn Evans: ended up here. There's a couple folks at
the shelter

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Carolyn Evans: in a similar boat leaving corporate
careers.

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Carolyn Evans: We like to call ourselves corporate
dropouts, but really following

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Carolyn Evans: our passion. What I think is more
interesting than my

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Carolyn Evans: story is how Cincinnati Animal Care
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Carolyn Evans: Hamilton County. Yeah. Why don't you go
into that? Yeah,

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Carolyn Evans: yeah. While we were in Clermont, Meaghan
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Carolyn Evans: at the time. Our leadership team was
quietly watching what

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Carolyn Evans: was happening over here at Hamilton
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Carolyn Evans: And it was a time of change for Hamilton
County.

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Carolyn Evans: There was an animal services provider
who had been here

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Carolyn Evans: for many years, and the community was
really wanting a

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Carolyn Evans: higher level of accountability and
transparency. And so there was

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Carolyn Evans: a there was a demand for change. And at
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Carolyn Evans: time, the SPCA also indicated that they
wanted to put

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Carolyn Evans: some distance between themselves and the
county contract.

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Carolyn Evans: So they think it was September of 2019.
They had

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Carolyn Evans: announced that they wanted to relinquish
the contract, and so

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Carolyn Evans: we reached out to the county and wanted
to start

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Carolyn Evans: exploring opportunities to see if we
could work with you.

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Carolyn Evans: And we were really pleasantly surprised,
very quickly, to see

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Carolyn Evans: that there was a lot of alignment
between the work

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Carolyn Evans: that we wanted to do and what the county
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Carolyn Evans: looking for in an animal services
operator.

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Carolyn Evans: So we started running the county
contract in August of

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Carolyn Evans: 2020.

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Jeff Alutto: That's fantastic. And you've been a
great partner in all

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Jeff Alutto: those years, so thank you for that,
Carolyn. And Meaghan,

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Jeff Alutto: kind of same question to you. What got
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Jeff Alutto: this business and how did you get to
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Jeff Alutto: Care?

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Meghan Coreville: Well, I was I'm really the one on our
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Meghan Coreville: team that has probably the most amount
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Meghan Coreville: animal sheltering.

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Meghan Coreville: I started in 2010 out in Los Angeles. I
worked

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Meghan Coreville: at the SPCA in Los Angeles, and my
background is

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Meghan Coreville: education. I taught for three years.
That's where I my

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Meghan Coreville: bachelor's degree, my master's degree in
education, and after three

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Meghan Coreville: years was always sort of the like the
animal teacher.

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Meghan Coreville: I started an animal club for the kids
and things

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Meghan Coreville: like that.

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Meghan Coreville: If there was an injured bird on campus,
they'd come

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Meghan Coreville: try to find me. But I was able to really

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Meghan Coreville: blend those two passions. Teaching and
animals in Los Angeles

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Meghan Coreville: as part of the humane education team
that was out

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Meghan Coreville: there. So that's how I got my start. And
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Meghan Coreville: eventually, after a few years, I kind of
dropped the

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Meghan Coreville: education side of it and stayed with
shelter operations.

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Meghan Coreville: It's very expensive in Los Angeles,
especially working in nonprofits.

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Meghan Coreville: So I made my way back east. I'm actually
from

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Meghan Coreville: Toronto, Canada originally, but my
family's in Ohio. I went

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Meghan Coreville: to Ohio State, so I ended up in
Cincinnati. And

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Meghan Coreville: I've been doing this animal shelter work
in Cincinnati since

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Meghan Coreville: about 2016. Carolyn and I were put in
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Meghan Coreville: by a mutual friend, and we hit it off.

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Meghan Coreville: I think we both had the same vision for
what

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Meghan Coreville: we wanted to see an animal services. So
we've been

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Meghan Coreville: working together since probably early
2019. And yeah, I will

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Meghan Coreville: echo what Carolyn said, that we were
very excited to

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Meghan Coreville: have the opportunity to Hamilton County
because it's been a

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Meghan Coreville: great partnership. It's been really fun
to be able to

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Meghan Coreville: work with county administration

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Meghan Coreville: That is so, you know, they want what we
want.

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Meghan Coreville: They want we want strong animal services
in our county.

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Meghan Coreville: So it's made our job easy.

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Jeff Alutto: Absolutely. No thank thank you both for
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Jeff Alutto: couple of things real quick. First of
all before I

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Jeff Alutto: forget PhoDOGrapher awesome name that is
classic and is is

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Jeff Alutto: there a Buckeye connection here or is
that just completely

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Jeff Alutto: coincidental?

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Carolyn Evans: Coincidental. That's incidental too.
Buckeyes here for sure.

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Jeff Alutto: Yeah, it's very cool. Good. So, you
know, when we

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Jeff Alutto: think about animal care in the work that
the the

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Jeff Alutto: dog warden function of the county does,
you know, so

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Jeff Alutto: many people think about this is the
place where you

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Jeff Alutto: come to adopt a pet. But there's so much
more

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Jeff Alutto: that goes on behind the scenes here.

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Jeff Alutto: I just know we do calls what? Every
month. I

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Jeff Alutto: think we've got something on the
calendar. We do a

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Jeff Alutto: teams call where we catch up on what's
going on

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Jeff Alutto: out here. And and I just know from those
conversations

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Jeff Alutto: that this is just a huge operation and
the work

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Jeff Alutto: that has to go on behind the scenes to
make

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Jeff Alutto: this work, I think would really surprise
a lot of

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Jeff Alutto: So when you think about the the mission
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Jeff Alutto: operations of this facility and this and
Cincinnati Animal Care,

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Jeff Alutto: how would you describe just to the
average resident, what

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Jeff Alutto: would you say about the mission and the
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Jeff Alutto: this organization?

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Carolyn Evans: I think it's important to understand
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Carolyn Evans: what what animal services could look
like in Hamilton County,

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Carolyn Evans: we really envisioned a support center.

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Carolyn Evans: We envisioned a community resource for
folks, for people who

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Carolyn Evans: care about animals. We're not just an
animal services provider.

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Carolyn Evans: We are a human services provider for
people that care

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Carolyn Evans: about animals. And we wanted we knew
that in order

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Carolyn Evans: to get animals out alive, you have to
have programs

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Carolyn Evans: in a pathway for them to do that.

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Carolyn Evans: It's not enough just to say we don't
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Carolyn Evans: animals to die in our county shelter.
There has to

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Carolyn Evans: be very strategic programing to make
that happen. So we've

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Carolyn Evans: been working very hard for the last six
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Carolyn Evans: develop those programs from the
beginning to develop those programs

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Carolyn Evans: and that infrastructure to make sure
that we could not

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Carolyn Evans: only help animals, but help the other
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Carolyn Evans: leash, help the people that are caring
for animals, and

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Carolyn Evans: very important to us, is doing as much
work as

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Carolyn Evans: we can in advance so that we can keep
animals

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Carolyn Evans: in their homes rather than them ending
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Carolyn Evans: shelter.

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Carolyn Evans: So we do everything that we can to
provide, to

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Carolyn Evans: try to prevent surrender. For many, many
years, the model

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Carolyn Evans: for animal services across the country
has been that the

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Carolyn Evans: animal shelter has been a dumping
ground, and a lot

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Carolyn Evans: of people, that's not really where they
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Carolyn Evans: to end up, but they get to a point of

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Carolyn Evans: desperation and they think that's their
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Carolyn Evans: We are trying to work with the community
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Carolyn Evans: programs and educate folks to know that
there are ways

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Carolyn Evans: that we can help them, instead of just
taking in

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Carolyn Evans: their animals. There are ways that we
can support them

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Carolyn Evans: and help them keep their animals in
their homes, which

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Carolyn Evans: is much it's better for the animal, it's
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Carolyn Evans: the county shelter with limited space
and limited resources, and

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Carolyn Evans: it's better in many times.

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Carolyn Evans: In many cases, it's better for the
families as well.

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Carolyn Evans: They really want to keep their pets with
them and

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Carolyn Evans: our it is our goal to try to make that

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Carolyn Evans: happen. If that's the best solution for
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Carolyn Evans: the people involved. Well, I love that
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Carolyn Evans: this being as much about being a human
services provision

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Carolyn Evans: entity as it is just an animal services.

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Jeff Alutto: I remember one of the times I was out
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Jeff Alutto: and I think it was just randomly on a
tour.

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Jeff Alutto: I forget the exact purpose, but I was
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Jeff Alutto: there had been a car wreck, I think, and
a

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Jeff Alutto: woman and the person that she was with
were injured

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Jeff Alutto: in the wreck and they were sent to the
hospital,

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Jeff Alutto: but there was a dog there as well.

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Jeff Alutto: And you guys were called, took that dog
in. I

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Jeff Alutto: think the dog had some injuries and you
have the

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Jeff Alutto: capabilities here to do surgery and
things like that. So

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Jeff Alutto: I'm not I can't remember exactly what
the outcome of

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Jeff Alutto: that was, whether it was good, bad,
whatever. The point

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Jeff Alutto: being is that when that person, whoever
it was woke

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Jeff Alutto: up in the hospital, I can imagine one of
the

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Jeff Alutto: first things after they assess their own
condition and that

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Jeff Alutto: of their of the person that was with
them, is

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Jeff Alutto: what happened to my pet.

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Jeff Alutto: My pet was and you guys took care of
that.

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Jeff Alutto: And that's really important to know that
there's an agency

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Jeff Alutto: here that thinks about those things and
takes care of

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Jeff Alutto: not just the animals, but the human
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Carolyn Evans: Yeah, it's definitely that piece of mind
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Jeff Alutto: Yeah, great. Great plug, Carolyn. Thanks
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Meghan Coreville: Yeah, every county is required to have
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that gap here for

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that model and

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dying during across

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people's pets that were

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time, pets have

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Meghan Coreville: And so with between the two agencies,
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Meghan Coreville: And as frequent watchers of our show
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functions,

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counties in the state

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it's just a

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expected here in

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that's the case

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Meghan Coreville: of whether you're talking about
stormwater management, housing, economic development,

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animal control

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Jeff Alutto: So thank you. Thank you for pointing
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Carolyn Evans: far more interesting to people what our
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Jeff Alutto: Yeah. Meaghan, typical day. You walk you
walk in, what

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Meghan Coreville: Well I think this was mentioned a little
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Meghan Coreville: about just people don't quite understand
what goes on in

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robust operation.

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that's one of

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been one of

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get is they're like,

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that question about

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Meghan Coreville: But I would say we hit the ground
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do

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cleaning and, you know,

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Meghan Coreville: getting the animals ready. But we're
here to help and

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know, that once

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coming

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people that

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shelters, I think

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they're excited.

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excited to

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another

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tears because

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it's completely

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different skill set is required from

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completely different programing. So we're really

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that they have

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underlying problem is or issue

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something else

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people problem solve

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you're concerned because

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there thinking, I don't

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can

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all

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resources in terms

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come, the

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they may be coming

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times for

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volunteers are they’re

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are trying to connect

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make sure everything is

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people, you've got

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about 14 different

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animal really goes

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picked up

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Meghan Coreville: go get checked in by our intake team,
which is

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Meghan Coreville: the second department.

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Meghan Coreville: The medical team needs to see them as a
third

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Meghan Coreville: department. Our dog behavior team or a
cat behavior team

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Meghan Coreville: may need to evaluate their behavior.
That's a fourth department.

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Meghan Coreville: The animal care team is a fifth
department is caring

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Meghan Coreville: for them. And then depending they might
go to foster.

409
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Meghan Coreville: Now a six department is handling that
same animal all

410
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Meghan Coreville: the way through to our adoption team.

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Meghan Coreville: Or our social media team might get
pictures of them.

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Meghan Coreville: So as you can imagine, this one animal,
we've got

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Meghan Coreville: almost 9000 that come in every year.
Every single animal

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Meghan Coreville: is going through that process. And it's
got to be

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Meghan Coreville: a clean handoff so that we're not
missing anything and

416
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Meghan Coreville: that it's we don't have too many
headaches, I guess,

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Meghan Coreville: I'm sure.

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Meghan Coreville: So there's a lot going on. But that's
really kind

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Meghan Coreville: of my job is trying to make sure that
those

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Meghan Coreville: pieces all work together, and our team
is able to

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Meghan Coreville: execute on those.

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Jeff Alutto: No. Meaghan, and thanks for all the work
you do

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Jeff Alutto: here to keep the operations running,
running smoothly. And you

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Jeff Alutto: mentioned at one point I think you said
come into

425
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Jeff Alutto: the facility

426
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Jeff Alutto: and so not to confuse people, but you
actually have

427
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Jeff Alutto: two facilities right now. Right. Two
major, you've got the

428
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Jeff Alutto: Colerain Avenue facility and the Dane
facility. So you can

429
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Jeff Alutto: just talk a little bit about the
difference between those

430
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Jeff Alutto: so people understand out there how the
facility function is

431
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Jeff Alutto: working right now.

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Carolyn Evans: Sure. Yeah. We have both facilities are
in northside.

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Carolyn Evans: They are only about a mile apart. The
Colerain facility

434
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Carolyn Evans: is our main facility. It's the original
facility that's been

435
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Carolyn Evans: the county shelter for 60 years. It's
where most people

436
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Carolyn Evans: are familiar with and where they where
they come. All

437
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Carolyn Evans: of our dog operations are run out of.
I'm sorry.

438
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Carolyn Evans: Most of our dog operations are run out
of there.

439
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Carolyn Evans: Warden operations are run from there.
But our cat, our

440
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Carolyn Evans: cat program is over here at the Dane
facility. And

441
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Carolyn Evans: then we have overflow. There are just so
many animals

442
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Carolyn Evans: at the county shelter right now. The
original shelter has

443
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Carolyn Evans: housing, humane housing for 100 dogs. At
any given time,

444
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Carolyn Evans: we could have 250 dogs in our care. So
the

445
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Carolyn Evans: county renovated the space over here for
us about three

446
00:21:00,883 --> 00:21:01,500
Carolyn Evans: years ago.

447
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Carolyn Evans: And so we've been operating our dog
program out of

448
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Carolyn Evans: the two facilities for about three years
now. And then

449
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Carolyn Evans: the Cat program is out of the Dane
facility.

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Jeff Alutto: And I just want to thank you for both of

451
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Jeff Alutto: you, for as we've gone through some of
these facility

452
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Jeff Alutto: transitions, you have been a a constant
force and a

453
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Jeff Alutto: voice for making sure that the animals
are well cared

454
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Jeff Alutto: for here in Hamilton County, because we
don't from a

455
00:21:24,695 --> 00:21:27,700
Jeff Alutto: county perspective, we don't see it all
the time.

456
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Jeff Alutto: And, you know, we have budgets to
monitor that type

457
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Jeff Alutto: of thing. But for the Hamilton County
public out there

458
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Jeff Alutto: wondering who is a voice for the animals
in this

459
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Jeff Alutto: community, we hear that loud and clear.
If there's something

460
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Jeff Alutto: that this facility needs or the Colerain
facility needs, you're

461
00:21:44,749 --> 00:21:48,159
Jeff Alutto: constantly reaching out and making sure
that we're aware of

462
00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:48,500
Jeff Alutto: that.

463
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Jeff Alutto: And then we work together to try to
address those

464
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Jeff Alutto: as best as possible, including planning
for a new facility

465
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Jeff Alutto: down the road, which we've bought some
property now, and

466
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Jeff Alutto: hopefully we'll be getting started on
the planning for that

467
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Jeff Alutto: soon, so that in a time in the not too

468
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Jeff Alutto: distant future that both of these
facilities merge into one

469
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Jeff Alutto: that is a state of the art home for
animals.

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Jeff Alutto: And as you said earlier, Carolyn is just
a better

471
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Jeff Alutto: home for the animals and humans that
that need to

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Jeff Alutto: use those facilities.

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Carolyn Evans: Yeah. Certainly for the animals no
doubt. I can't overestimate

474
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Carolyn Evans: how important the facilities are.
Purpose built facility to support

475
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Carolyn Evans: the type of programing that that we're
offering to Hamilton

476
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Carolyn Evans: County.

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Meghan Coreville: It's like laws in the 50s and 60 if the

478
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Meghan Coreville: building was outdated as well.

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Carolyn Evans: Right? Yeah. And you know, the toll it
takes on

480
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Carolyn Evans: animals is undoubtable. So being able to
- everything that

481
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Carolyn Evans: we've done to improve those facilities
and to expand facilities

482
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Carolyn Evans: has been really critical to life saving,
quite frankly. I

483
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Carolyn Evans: mean, the bottom line is, if animals are
held in

484
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Carolyn Evans: these types of environments where we
can't provide the type

485
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Carolyn Evans: of enrichment that they need or the type
of environment

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Carolyn Evans: that they need to remain sane in their -
while

487
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Carolyn Evans: they're in the animal shelter.

488
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Carolyn Evans: It can lead to decisions that none of us
want

489
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Carolyn Evans: to have to make. We do not ever. We have

490
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Carolyn Evans: never and nor will we ever euthanize an
animal for

491
00:23:11,062 --> 00:23:13,983
Carolyn Evans: space or euthanize an animal out of
convenience because, you

492
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Carolyn Evans: know, it's just it's easier to move an
animal. But

493
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Carolyn Evans: we have had to make some really tough
decisions around

494
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Carolyn Evans: quality of life.

495
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Carolyn Evans: We've had to make decisions when we have
an animal

496
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Carolyn Evans: that is at languishing in a kennel for
weeks or

497
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Carolyn Evans: months, and this is an animal that is
not getting

498
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Carolyn Evans: noticed, not having opportunities to get
out and foster or

499
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Carolyn Evans: people coming to adopt this animal. At
some point, it's

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Carolyn Evans: no longer humane to keep that animal.

501
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Carolyn Evans: We know that an animal is never going to
do

502
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Carolyn Evans: better in a shelter than it will in a
home,

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Carolyn Evans: even though we do everything we can to
provide a

504
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Carolyn Evans: good environment and provide enrichment
for these animals, we need

505
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Carolyn Evans: to get them out of here. But when they
are

506
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Carolyn Evans: here, it's important to have appropriate
facilities so that they

507
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Carolyn Evans: can - we can give them the best, the
best

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Carolyn Evans: stay possible with the county animal
shelter.

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Jeff Alutto: Well, and that's something I think maybe
we can pivot

510
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Jeff Alutto: to. Again, we've done a couple of PSAs
during the

511
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Jeff Alutto: course of this show, but the next place
where I

512
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Jeff Alutto: think you as a Hamilton County resident
can help out

513
00:24:16,463 --> 00:24:20,204
Jeff Alutto: is the fostering program. Right. And you
mentioned to Carolyn

514
00:24:20,204 --> 00:24:23,944
Jeff Alutto: that that the environment that dogs
have, in particular dogs

515
00:24:23,944 --> 00:24:27,685
Jeff Alutto: have to live in when they're here and
being around

516
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Jeff Alutto: all the other animals and the noise, the
stress levels,

517
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Jeff Alutto: etc..

518
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Jeff Alutto: And Hamilton County residents, even if
they're not in a

519
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:40,400
Jeff Alutto: position to adopt an animal, can do
something on a

520
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,700
Jeff Alutto: day to day basis. To help out with this,
you

521
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Jeff Alutto: want to talk a little bit about the
fostering program?

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Meghan Coreville: Yeah, I. Yeah. Our foster program has
been one of

523
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Meghan Coreville: our key life saving programs that we
added in 2020

524
00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:56,400
Meghan Coreville: to the Hamilton County Animal Services
programing our foster program.

525
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Meghan Coreville: We try to make it as easy as possible.
We

526
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Meghan Coreville: ask our residents of Hamilton County,
anybody in our region,

527
00:25:01,665 --> 00:25:04,297
Meghan Coreville: you don't have to just live in Hamilton
County. You

528
00:25:04,297 --> 00:25:06,929
Meghan Coreville: can be in other counties. Anybody that
wants to help

529
00:25:06,929 --> 00:25:09,562
Meghan Coreville: to come on down and take an animal for
any

530
00:25:09,562 --> 00:25:12,194
Meghan Coreville: amount of time, you could foster cats,
dogs. If we

531
00:25:12,194 --> 00:25:14,300
Meghan Coreville: have other animals like rabbits, guinea
pigs, chickens,

532
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:16,985
Meghan Coreville: You can take them home and foster. And
like I

533
00:25:16,985 --> 00:25:19,670
Meghan Coreville: said, we try to make it easy and
noncommittal. If

534
00:25:19,670 --> 00:25:22,355
Meghan Coreville: you want to take an animal out just for
the

535
00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:25,040
Meghan Coreville: day, just to give it a break from the
noise,

536
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,725
Meghan Coreville: the chaos of the shelter, we call those
day trips,

537
00:25:27,725 --> 00:25:30,410
Meghan Coreville: and people can come down and take out a
dog,

538
00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:33,095
Meghan Coreville: take them to the banks, take them to a
take

539
00:25:33,095 --> 00:25:33,900
Meghan Coreville: them to work,

540
00:25:33,900 --> 00:25:36,454
Meghan Coreville: if they are able to have pets there,
they could

541
00:25:36,454 --> 00:25:39,008
Meghan Coreville: come down and take an animal just for
one night.

542
00:25:39,008 --> 00:25:41,562
Meghan Coreville: That's helpful as well. We have people
that take it

543
00:25:41,562 --> 00:25:44,116
Meghan Coreville: for the weekend. We have people take
them for weeks

544
00:25:44,116 --> 00:25:46,670
Meghan Coreville: or months at a time as well. So we
really

545
00:25:46,670 --> 00:25:49,224
Meghan Coreville: like to work with our community members
with whatever they're

546
00:25:49,224 --> 00:25:51,778
Meghan Coreville: able to do and try to find the right fit

547
00:25:51,778 --> 00:25:52,800
Meghan Coreville: for them as well.

548
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,357
Meghan Coreville: Find the right either a species fit or a
personality

549
00:25:55,357 --> 00:25:57,914
Meghan Coreville: fit to make sure they can help. But it
really

550
00:25:57,914 --> 00:26:00,471
Meghan Coreville: does, I mean, the kind of the old cliche
in

551
00:26:00,471 --> 00:26:03,029
Meghan Coreville: our industry as it saves two lives.
You're not only

552
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:05,586
Meghan Coreville: helping the animal that you are taking
into your home,

553
00:26:05,586 --> 00:26:08,143
Meghan Coreville: you're also opening up a kennel so that
we can

554
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Meghan Coreville: take in another, you know, help out
another animal too.

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Jeff Alutto: And that's great. And it was one of you
that

556
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Jeff Alutto: told me that there were actually studies
out there that

557
00:26:16,117 --> 00:26:18,825
Jeff Alutto: show that the stress - that leaves and
comes back

558
00:26:18,825 --> 00:26:21,533
Jeff Alutto: - an animal that leaves and comes back,
that the

559
00:26:21,533 --> 00:26:24,242
Jeff Alutto: stress levels in that they measure, I
guess the hormone

560
00:26:24,242 --> 00:26:26,950
Jeff Alutto: cortisol, the cardinal levels. Yeah.
There's come down significantly after

561
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:29,658
Jeff Alutto: they've been out on one of these day
trips or

562
00:26:29,658 --> 00:26:30,200
Jeff Alutto: foster visits.

563
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,155
Jeff Alutto: I know I was thinking about adopting a
dog at

564
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Jeff Alutto: one point in time, wasn't ultimately
didn't work out. But

565
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:39,066
Jeff Alutto: I remember we had found this dog and you
said,

566
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Jeff Alutto: take it just for the night, try it out.
So

567
00:26:42,021 --> 00:26:44,976
Jeff Alutto: and I just remember taking this dog that
was, you

568
00:26:44,976 --> 00:26:47,931
Jeff Alutto: know, extremely hyper and you could tell
it was a

569
00:26:47,931 --> 00:26:50,000
Jeff Alutto: bit stressed from being in the facility.

570
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,861
Jeff Alutto: And I remember the next day coming into
my son's

571
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:55,723
Jeff Alutto: room and it's just sleeping in the bed
with my

572
00:26:55,723 --> 00:26:58,584
Jeff Alutto: son like it had been there for for ten
years.

573
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Jeff Alutto: And even when we brought it back was
just much

574
00:27:01,446 --> 00:27:04,307
Jeff Alutto: lower, much lower key. And so I can only
imagine

575
00:27:04,307 --> 00:27:07,168
Jeff Alutto: that just that little bit of time
helped. And also

576
00:27:07,168 --> 00:27:10,030
Jeff Alutto: for people that are thinking about this,
what you guys

577
00:27:10,030 --> 00:27:12,891
Jeff Alutto: educated me on was the simple fact of
living with

578
00:27:12,891 --> 00:27:15,752
Jeff Alutto: a family, even for a day, gives you guys
the

579
00:27:15,752 --> 00:27:18,614
Jeff Alutto: ability to put on a tag and put on the

580
00:27:18,614 --> 00:27:18,900
Jeff Alutto: website,

581
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:21,481
Jeff Alutto: this dog does well with cats, this dog
does well

582
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Jeff Alutto: with young kids. And that's something
that these folks look

583
00:27:24,063 --> 00:27:26,644
Jeff Alutto: at when they're looking to adopt. So if
you foster

584
00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:29,226
Jeff Alutto: for a day, you can - it get us all

585
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Jeff Alutto: kinds of information.

586
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,630
Meghan Coreville: Exactly. It's really helpful for us just
to have somebody

587
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:35,261
Meghan Coreville: get that animal out. And you're right.
Just one of

588
00:27:35,261 --> 00:27:37,891
Meghan Coreville: the things we talk about in orientation
with new employees

589
00:27:37,891 --> 00:27:40,522
Meghan Coreville: is try to kind of put them in the shoes

590
00:27:40,522 --> 00:27:42,100
Meghan Coreville: of the animals that are here.

591
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:45,028
Meghan Coreville: I can't imagine living here. I can't
imagine living at

592
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Meghan Coreville: the shelter. And, you know, the lights
don't always go

593
00:27:47,955 --> 00:27:50,883
Meghan Coreville: off completely. There's always noise
throughout the night and dogs

594
00:27:50,883 --> 00:27:53,810
Meghan Coreville: are barking. Imagine just not getting a
good night of

595
00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:56,738
Meghan Coreville: sleep for days and weeks and months at a
time.

596
00:27:56,738 --> 00:27:59,665
Meghan Coreville: You are not necessarily going to be your
best when

597
00:27:59,665 --> 00:28:02,300
Meghan Coreville: it does come time to meet a new family.

598
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:04,800
Meghan Coreville: And so if we can get those animals out,
I

599
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,300
Meghan Coreville: think the number one thing we can do for
them

600
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:09,800
Meghan Coreville: is allow them to sleep. We get a lot of

601
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,300
Meghan Coreville: people that say they took an animal out,
they took

602
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,800
Meghan Coreville: a dog home especially, and they just
fell asleep on

603
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,300
Meghan Coreville: the couch because these dogs and these
cats are just

604
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:19,343
Meghan Coreville: They're living in a high stress
environment. So getting them

605
00:28:19,343 --> 00:28:21,387
Meghan Coreville: out, even for a short amount of time,
can make

606
00:28:21,387 --> 00:28:21,1000
Meghan Coreville: a big difference.

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Carolyn Evans: Well, and Meaghan, you mentioned that
was one of the

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Carolyn Evans: critical life saving programs that we
brought in. And I

609
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Carolyn Evans: think it's really important to recognize
that when we're able

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Carolyn Evans: to, when we're able to move animals out
of the

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Carolyn Evans: shelter and house them in a foster home
with a

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Carolyn Evans: foster care giver, what we're doing is
we're basically expanding

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Carolyn Evans: the capacity of the animal shelter.

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Carolyn Evans: We're expanding the walls, we're
expanding animal care in our

615
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Carolyn Evans: community beyond the four walls of the
shelter. And we're

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Carolyn Evans: making the community part of the animal
shelter. We're making

617
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Carolyn Evans: the community part of the solution. And
that is why

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Carolyn Evans: we're able to accommodate more animals.
And we're able to

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Carolyn Evans: keep animals longer, because we have
these opportunities to house

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Carolyn Evans: them in different ways where they're not
mentally deteriorating and

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Carolyn Evans: where we're getting more information on
them so they can

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Carolyn Evans: show better, and we can provide more
information and do

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Carolyn Evans: better matches when we do, when we do
have an

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Carolyn Evans: interested adopter.

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Carolyn Evans: So those things are really critically
important.

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Jeff Alutto: Yeah. So when people read the news or
they see

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Jeff Alutto: a social media alert that that the
shelter is on

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Jeff Alutto: capacity. Code red capacity alert, you
don't just have to

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Jeff Alutto: shake your head and think, oh, that's
too bad. You

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Jeff Alutto: can actually be a part of the solution
to this.

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Carolyn Evans: Yeah. And I will say we have people all
the

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Carolyn Evans: time, and I understand it, that don't
want to come

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Carolyn Evans: to the shelter, don't want to adopt, say
they can't

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Carolyn Evans: even foster because they feel guilty.

635
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Carolyn Evans: I work a full time job, I have kids,
we're

636
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Carolyn Evans: at soccer practice, you know, whatever,
whatever is consuming your

637
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Carolyn Evans: life. All of that is better than what an
animal

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Carolyn Evans: has here. And I say that with love,
knowing that

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Carolyn Evans: our staff and our volunteers do the very
best that

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Carolyn Evans: we can for these animals. They're still
living in a

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Carolyn Evans: candle 23 hours a day.

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Carolyn Evans: If I were that animal, I'd much rather
sleep in

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Carolyn Evans: a kennel ten hours a day in your home,
knowing

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Carolyn Evans: that you're coming home at the end of
the day.

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Carolyn Evans: And I get to spend time with that family
on

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Carolyn Evans: a couch, on a bed with people getting
that attention.

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Carolyn Evans: So that's something I think is really
important for people

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Carolyn Evans: to understand that the alternative of
living in the shelter

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Carolyn Evans: is not better than the alternative in
your home, even

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Carolyn Evans: if you're a busy family.

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Jeff Alutto: Yeah. Good point. Excellent point. So.
So before we go,

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Jeff Alutto: anything else you guys want to hit on?

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Meghan Coreville: I think I would just add kind of
building on

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Meghan Coreville: what we, what you were just saying,
Carolyn, is that,

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Meghan Coreville: you know, having a life saving animal
shelter in your

656
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Meghan Coreville: community is it can't just fall on the
humane society

657
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Meghan Coreville: or the organization that's doing it
can't just fall in

658
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Meghan Coreville: the Hamilton County government. It can't
just fall in Cincinnati

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Meghan Coreville: Animal Care.

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Meghan Coreville: It's got to be everybody. We need as
many people

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Meghan Coreville: pitching in as possible, and we talk
about the best

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Meghan Coreville: ways to get involved are to adopt, to
volunteer, to

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Meghan Coreville: foster, to donate. And if you can't do
any of

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Meghan Coreville: those things, to just share, follow us
on social media

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00:30:56,868 --> 00:30:59,482
Meghan Coreville: and share the word. Spread the word.
Because if you

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Meghan Coreville: might press share and somebody in
another part of the

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Meghan Coreville: county sees that and decides they're
going to come down

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Meghan Coreville: and adopt or foster or donate or
volunteer.

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Meghan Coreville: So we need everyone to participate.

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Jeff Alutto: Yeah, yeah. Carolyn, anything?

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Carolyn Evans: I would just add to that, I think the
power

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Carolyn Evans: of advocacy is so strong in this work
that we

673
00:31:15,929 --> 00:31:18,894
Carolyn Evans: do. When I hop on NextDoor, 90% of the
posts

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Carolyn Evans: are about animals, people. That really
resonates with people. And

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Carolyn Evans: it really, it really travels. I do want
to tell

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Carolyn Evans: you a story about a dog that we had
named

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Carolyn Evans: Marcus, and he was with us for about a
year,

678
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Carolyn Evans: and he was an animal that was really
deteriorating after

679
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Carolyn Evans: a year at the shelter.

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Carolyn Evans: And he had a lot of what we call
stacking

681
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Carolyn Evans: barriers, reasons why he wasn't getting
adopted. He needed to

682
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Carolyn Evans: be in a single animal home. He couldn't
be with

683
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Carolyn Evans: cats, he couldn't be with kids. And we
got to

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Carolyn Evans: the point where we were going to have to
make

685
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Carolyn Evans: a very difficult euthanasia decision
about him because of his

686
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Carolyn Evans: quality of life, as we do with all
animals, we

687
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Carolyn Evans: pulled out all the stops.

688
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Carolyn Evans: We did a major social media campaign and
his for

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Carolyn Evans: some reason really, really took off.
There were a lot

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Carolyn Evans: of volunteers and staff who really had
taken him under

691
00:32:03,181 --> 00:32:05,708
Carolyn Evans: their wing as a dog, that they wanted to
get

692
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Carolyn Evans: out of the shelter, and this dog had
been missing

693
00:32:08,235 --> 00:32:10,762
Carolyn Evans: for a year and a half. We found out he

694
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:13,289
Carolyn Evans: had his owners had been looking for him
for a

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Carolyn Evans: year and a half.

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Carolyn Evans: They went to another shelter, but they
didn't come here.

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Carolyn Evans: So I think it's important for people to
understand that.

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Carolyn Evans: The Hamilton County Animal Shelter,
Cincinnati Animal Care, is where

699
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Carolyn Evans: stray dogs need to come and where stray
dogs come.

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Carolyn Evans: So if you're looking for your animal,
come to the

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Carolyn Evans: county shelter. This dog was almost
euthanized, but a friend

702
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Carolyn Evans: of a friend saw somebody post that had
been shared

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Carolyn Evans: a thousand times, and they came the day
he was,

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Carolyn Evans: the day before he was going to be
euthanized.

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Jeff Alutto: Well, so another great reason. Yeah. And
to get involved

706
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Jeff Alutto: in the foster program, because the more
you expand the

707
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Jeff Alutto: walls of the shelter, the longer you can
keep animals

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Jeff Alutto: and they don't or wouldn't be subjected
to euthanasia at

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Jeff Alutto: the end just because they couldn't get
placed. So that's

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Jeff Alutto: fantastic.

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Carolyn Evans: And again, it's important to reiterate
it. We are not

712
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Carolyn Evans: making that decision because of space.

713
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,561
Carolyn Evans: We are making that decision because it
is no longer

714
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Carolyn Evans: humane to keep that animal in that
environment. When there's

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Carolyn Evans: no prospect of an outcome, positive
outcome for that animal.

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Carolyn Evans: A lot of times we want to keep them and

717
00:33:12,842 --> 00:33:15,603
Carolyn Evans: it's for us, it's not for the animal. So
that's

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Carolyn Evans: really important. And one other thing I
want to say

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Carolyn Evans: is I think there is a misconception
about the animal

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Carolyn Evans: shelter.

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Carolyn Evans: A lot of people think it's a sad place.
We've

722
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Carolyn Evans: certainly done everything we can to
transform the Hamilton County

723
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Carolyn Evans: animal shelter from a place of despair
to a place

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Carolyn Evans: of hope. And if there are people that
care about

725
00:33:31,811 --> 00:33:34,414
Carolyn Evans: animals and they don't want to come to
the animal

726
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Carolyn Evans: shelter because they think it's a sad
place, the animals

727
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Carolyn Evans: don't need us to feel sorry for them
because it's

728
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Carolyn Evans: a sad place.

729
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Carolyn Evans: The animals need us to come here and
support the

730
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Carolyn Evans: work that we're doing. So it's not a sad
place.

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Jeff Alutto: Yeah, yeah. Well, I just want to thank
both of

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Jeff Alutto: you again for all the work that you do.

733
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Jeff Alutto: again, Carolyn, want to thank you for
all the work

734
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Jeff Alutto: you've done as CEO here. Meaghan, thank
you for all

735
00:33:57,679 --> 00:34:01,468
Jeff Alutto: of your work in terms of the operations
of the

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Jeff Alutto: shelter. And this is just a fantastic
organization.

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Unknown: Really appreciate your time being here,
emphasizing the partnership and

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Unknown: emphasizing what residents of the county
can do to help

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Unknown: animals and people in their community.
So thanks so much

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Unknown: for being here today.

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Carolyn Evans: Yeah. Thanks, Jeff. Yeah. Thank you. We
appreciate your partnership,

742
00:34:19,182 --> 00:34:22,364
Carolyn Evans: your leadership and your belief in us.
And we appreciate

743
00:34:22,364 --> 00:34:25,545
Carolyn Evans: the community's belief in us as well and
for being

744
00:34:25,545 --> 00:34:26,500
Carolyn Evans: part of it.

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Jeff Alutto: So thank you for that. You're very
welcome. And thank

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00:34:30,150 --> 00:34:33,800
Jeff Alutto: you to all of you who are loyal
listeners. Just

747
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,450
Jeff Alutto: remember that Cincinnati Animal Care is
about so much more

748
00:34:37,450 --> 00:34:41,100
Jeff Alutto: for finding homes for pets, it's about
and not only

749
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:44,750
Jeff Alutto: about protecting public safety, but it's
about keeping families together

750
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:48,400
Jeff Alutto: and giving thousands of animals and
people a second chance.

751
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,868
Jeff Alutto: So again, I encourage all of you to
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752
00:34:51,868 --> 00:34:55,335
Jeff Alutto: on all of our places where you can
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753
00:34:55,335 --> 00:34:58,803
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anymore. But

754
00:34:58,803 --> 00:35:02,271
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Hamilton county, Ohio. Gov.

755
00:35:02,271 --> 00:35:05,739
Jeff Alutto: Go to the county administrator's web
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756
00:35:05,739 --> 00:35:09,206
Jeff Alutto: find out how to follow us and how to
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00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,837
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